. >> yeah, even rasmussen they were giving a hard time. now in wake of the debate, the polls with tightening and all of the people who said all of these polls are rigged are all tweeting the results -- >> stephanie: yeah. kimberly gillfoil. >> okay. flunk the debate fudge the numbers. >> wow. is that journalism? >> on the five, yes. >> mccain ran in 2008 and we all remember the acorn nonsense that was truly unbelievable conspiracy, but i think the mccain campaign did its best to put a clamp on that but as we talked about before, the roles are flipped. fox news is running this campaign, and the romney campaign follows its lead. i'm not saying the romney campaign is running these. but unemployment numbers are fake. >> stephanie: i know. >> you embrace this crazy lunacy -- >> stephanie: and romney knows he doesn't have to do it because fox news will do it for him. >> yeah, but again, i can't imagine this will do him any favors. what is he going to do? he can't tell fox news to grow up. they are what they are, and they are in full-throated ner